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Inside Sources: Fukushima crisis “actually far worse than
anyone acknowledged… information withheld to prevent
panic” – Professor: “Level of radiation was far worse than Navy
officers anticipated” – US gov’t shredded documents for 4
days while drawing up plans to evacuate Japan — “Somebody
was obviously very worried”
Published: April 5th, 2014 at 5:51 pm ET
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Japan Times, Jeff Kingston of Temple Univ., Apr. 4, 2014: Kyle Cleveland, my colleague [...]
recently published a report […] a critical, but nuanced picture of a crisis that was closer to
careening out of control than is generally acknowledged. […] Naval officers […] discovered the
level of radiation was far worse than they anticipated. Radiation gauges on the [USS Reagan]
measured levels of radiation at 100 nautical miles off the coast that were 30 times greater than
normal. [Sailors report] significant health problems due to exposure to radiation […] Cleveland
finds that there was considerable disagreement between various U.S. agencies about the
severity of the risk […] Given that the U.S. government expanded the exclusionary zone in
Fukushima to 80 km and developed contingency plans for a massive evacuation while shredding
of documents continued for four days at the U.S. Embassy and military bases in Japan,
somebody was obviously very worried. […] Some of his insider sources tell him that the crisis was
actually far worse than anyone acknowledged at the time and that information was withheld to
prevent a panic. Cleveland concludes that Japan’s nuclear reactors should not be restarted.
Professor Kyle Cleveland, Temple University Japan: “[The navy was] more risk averse than either
the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) or State, and from day one was ringing alarms that
were not entirely understood, not completely validated and not well received by the NRC and
State. The navy was pushing the other federal agencies to take more aggressive actions
because their radiation measurements were indicating dose rates that were more significant than
what was implied by the abstract modeling […]”
Unidentified US Nuclear Expert: “Without a qualitatively different regulatory system, and in light of
how Japan/Tepco responded to this crisis, Japan has not earned the right to have nuclear
energy. No critically minded and informed person can evaluate this disaster and look at how
Japan has responded in the aftermath and have any confidence that Japan will use nuclear
energy safely. In the most seismically active country [...] even if Japan had a robust regulatory
structure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols, nature conspires against the best-laid-plans
of human institutions. And what Japan has is certainly not the best plan by any measure.”
See also: Anonymous U.S. Gov’t Nuclear Expert: Fukushima radiation levels were
“astronomical… nothing containing release of radioactivity, it’s an unmitigated, unshielded
number”
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worse than anyone acknowledged… information withheld to prevent
panic” – Professor: “Level of radiation was far worse than Navy
officers anticipated” – US gov’t shredded documents for 4 days while
drawing up plans to evacuate Japan — “Somebody was obviously
very worried”
Obvious
April 5, 2014 at 6:00 pm Log in to Reply
NRC .. FAIL
Obama .. FAIL
JGov .. FAIL
JAEA .. FAIL
IAEA .. FAIL
And I will even go as far as to say
OECD .. FAIL
World Bank .. FAIL
All banks loaning money to nuclear .. FAIL
United Nations .. FAIL
Nuclear Industry At Large .. FAIL
All responsible parties ought hang your heads in absolute shame and be hauled off to jail for
crimes against humanity
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Obvious
Perhaps more importantly: Moniz was only appointed because he would
ensure that industry got their way with tax payer money and approvals for
outrageous utility scams. He really ought be thrown down the nuclear and oil well.
Immelt, too.
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April 6, 2014 at 2:08 am Log in to Reply
Obvious=US military=fail
CIA= fail
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after crossing Pacific (VIDEO)
U.N. Agency: Fukushima Reactor 2 “burst” after fuel
melted — Then radiation doses quickly hit highest
levels of entire crisis for many places across region…
went in almost every direction… then skyrocketed all
at around same time (VIDEO)
PHOTOS: Study finds deformities “significantly higher”
in Fukushima insects — “To my knowledge, such
deformations haven’t been reported” in species
before — Lower body split in half, 2 tail-like
appendages — 1,000% higher death rate in young
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looming threat” to global ocean from Fukushima
releases — Radiation levels ‘well above’ 1,000 Bq/kg
according to model
Expert: No one in world has ever dealt with something
like WIPP disaster — Continuous release of
radioactive material ’24/7′ to environment — Nobody
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for so many people to be exposed — Gov’t yet to say if
dump will open again (AUDIO)
Inside Sources: Fukushima crisis “actually far worse
than anyone acknowledged… information withheld to
prevent panic” – Professor: “Level of radiation was far
worse than Navy officers anticipated” – US gov’t
shredded documents for 4 days while drawing up
very worried”
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Obama=truth leaking out, getting out to people…get a clue…people are catching
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JP
Obama=truth leaking out
Surely you jest. This coverup is far beyond your politics.
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+1000
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jp, they aren't my politics, but I was responding to obvious…
yes, it is
a big deep hole…
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Dee
Your blind allegiance to Obama is truly hard to
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To blame Cheney-Bush and give a pass to Obama is very dis-
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Cheney. Obama fled the country and left his citizens to die. He is no
better than the captain who fled the sinking cruise ship. Quite
frankly, the man is a coward.
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reactors), the Ongawa site (three reactors) and the Tokai site (one reactor). The
most serious damage occurred at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.”
We have very little information on the state of the Nuclear reactors at those sites
at the time, and now. We certainly don't have the full story on how serious the
situation is.
http://enenews.com/us-commission-14-nuclear-reactors-at-4-sites-in-eastern-
japan-were-affected-on-311-according-to-nisa-fukushima-daiichi-had-the-most-
serious-damage-daini-onagawa-and-tokai-were-others
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ENENews
AGR, you might want to edit your post that you linked to
(http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/japan-plans-to-
evacuate-40-million.html) since the EU Times article you cite is a
fraud/hoax/sham/scam/piece of garbage which originally appeared here:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1572.htm. If anyone is not familiar with
the 'stories' originating from that domain, do a bit of research into it.
Here's a few ideas on how to quickly spot one:
Hint 1: If the source is an anonymous Russian/Kremlin officials = huge red
flag.
Hint 2: If it's on the EU Times = huge red flag.
Hint 3: If the links included do not provide proof of the serious assertions
being made, and no exact quotes from the source are included = huge red
flag.
Hint 4: If it's 'major' new information about Fukushima that's been released
and you are not seeing it excerpted on ENE = huge red flag.
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J.
I concur, and thank you for posting your advice. The article
linked on Green Road is beyond implausible. It would be
virtually impossible to evacuate the Tokyo metropolitan area in a short
time under any circumstances, and any attempt to evacuate even women
and children would take a very long time indeed. If such an effort were
undertaken, citizens would be moved to Kyushu and Hokkaido. The idea
of moving tens of millions of Japanese citizens to Chinese ghost cities is
ludicrous, and to territory held by Russia only slightly less unlikely.
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obewanspeaks
Correct and it's best they are left to fry and die..
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You might try writing off-list.
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Heart of the Rose
I would like to think that the Japan did at least for a
moment consider the implausible.
Implying at least being weak souled as opposed to soulless.
(PS..What I learned from my dad..was that the news coming out
of Russia..(and the CIA)..always has a grain of truth.
(they prefer it that way)
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Heart of the Rose
I'm rereading…this series.
PROMETHEUS TRAP/ ‘Shadow units’ (21): Fukushima
plant chief cried
April 19 2013
(scroll down for series)
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201
304190009
Very interesting..as names and places ..take form.
After all ..we are all in our places ..now aren't we?
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HoTaters
Obvious, yes, you have named some of the less obvious players who have
FAILED. Failed to respect and provide even the minimum amount of
protection for all life on earth and our precious gene pool.
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Max Sievert
Why they wrote "Unidentified US Nuclear Expert"? his name is Kyle CLEVELAND,
he got a Ph.D. in Sociology and nothig else .
http://www.tuj.ac.jp/newsite/main/undergrad/about_tuj/faculty/kyle_cleveland.html
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Obvious

The point is: US regulatory and perhaps other staff shredded documents
pertinent to the seriously critical nuclear event in Fukushima Japan (not to
forget that Monju may have spread MOX+ around the world prior to 311). Don't distract
from the legal point which requires serious review by human rights and Navy sailor
lawyers and others who may wish to join in lawsuits against the culprits.
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AFTERSHOCK
hate to tell you, Obvious, but when you submit those indictments, that
shredders just gonna start humming away. These governments have
zero concern for either citizenry or those who serve them. They're simply yuke-it-
up on the way to the bank! We're three years into this any absolutely no laws
(existing or otherwise) have been imposed on the international criminal network
that brought this about. When today's ENENEWS comments are summarized for
review by the guys upstairs, there's gonna be a lotta laughter when they come
across yours…
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Obvious
You are obviously not of the right mind, thought, or intent.
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AFTERSHOCK
well, may I'll join you and yours in one big hands around the
world. We'll think happy thoughts…
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ENENews
Max Sievert, I've been familiar with Cleveland since the
recent STS Forum. Very solid researcher and writer.
Thanks for trying to help, though reading through the article in the
Japan Times makes it clear this quote is not by Cleveland, but from
an unnamed 'American nuclear expert'… Any article that gets
featured on ENE is read many times to make sure the most relevant
excerpts are not missed. Once the excerpts to be used are
identified, I read those excerpts several more times to determine a
headline. There may be a spelling mistake in a headline every now
and then, though I'm quite confident the comprehension is correct
after reading through the excerpts around a dozen times by the time
the post are made public.
I'll paste the JT excerpt for those interested: "Cleveland concludes
that Japan’s nuclear reactors should not be restarted. As one
American nuclear expert told him, “…No critically minded and
informed person can evaluate this disaster and look at how Japan
has responded in the aftermath and have any confidence that
Japan will use nuclear energy safely. And in the most seismically
active country in the world, even if Japan had a robust regulatory
structure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols, nature
conspires against the best-laid-plans of human institutions. And
what Japan has is certainly not the best plan by any measure."
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ENEnews Admin, GREAT to see your sunny yellow
posts again! We appreciate the research and
quality control that goes into all Enenews articles. Hands down,
this is THE best resource on the web for reliable and relevant
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Discordian
Hear, hear.
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bo
I'm trying really hard not to slobber all over this post
Keeping it short
Thank you admin
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admin your attention to detail and facts is much
admired, thank you
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WELCOME BACK ADMIN! I think we felt lost without
you, great to see you steering the helm again. Hope
your health is good and you feel strong as ever Missed you!
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Starbird
ENE admin, your headline; "Fukushima crisis
“actually far worse than anyone acknowledged…
information withheld to prevent panic”, says it all -
The fact that the R. Reagan crew fell ill so quickly demonstrates
how deadly this poisoning of the Biosphere was –
I sense that with the public admission of the 700lbs of weapon-
grade plutonium and an undisclosed amount of highly enriched
Uranium
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/03/24/national/japan-to-
return-weapons-grade-plutonium-to-u-s/ that Japan is
supposedly to return to the US, they are slowly conditioning the
public to the TRUTH of what really exploded in R3 and R4.
Too many people know, so the secret will come out anyway,
sooner or later, and by having previously admitted they had
stores of weapons-grade material, the shock when they say
"oh, by the way some of that weapons-grade material went up
in smoke on 3/11, will be less of a shock.
"The actual cause of the blasts, according to intelligence

sources in Washington, was nuclear fission of warhead cores
illegally taken from America's sole nuclear-weapons assembly
facility. Evaporation in the cooling pools used for spent fuel
rods led to the detonation of stored weapons-grade plutonium
and uranium."
http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t835959/
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SadieDog
If you read the article, Cleveland is quoting an unknown nuclear
professional. And a dumb one at that.
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Dick Shenary
Obvious,
If what you say is so obvious, why is the whole world so blind?
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obewanspeaks
Shredding documents means conspiracy and collusion to create a scam
and/or fraud was happening at all levels of government.
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fireguyjeff
obewan:
Another thought…
The embassy was simply shredding sensitive documents unrelated to Fuku in case
they were told they were to be evacuated soon.
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obewanspeaks
Sensitive documents, yep, like I stated.
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whatamessa
..All I can say is … This catastrophe smells PUTRID,and whenever
Putrid is around,you can be assured the the good ol' U.S.A is involved.
that's the way they roll!!
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arclight2

last repost
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/australian-nuclear-lobby-manipulates-the-
internet-the-liberal-partys-nuclear-dreams-the-strange-case-of-dr-john-white-and-ignite/
this explains monbiots attack on busby
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/the-cuban-twitter-scam-is-a-drop-in-the-internet-
propaganda-bucket/
HAve you seen where Alps has gone anyone? bloody waste of time and money..
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/adieu-free-speech-in-nuclear-france-areva-rules/
In line with Japans secrecy laws and the Trans Pacific treaty and trans atlantic treaties
coopyright laws (know you can see whu they NEED copyright laws and how they are getting
around the opposition)
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/03/09/the-uk-follows-japan-in-determining-extent-of-nuclear-
transparency-by-extending-secrecy-and-protecting-corruption/
qiuck mispelling so you know its me
and this is the tip of the iceburg – ref Glen greenwald and friends
sorry about the multi link admin but they are a natural (not that i ususally gamble)
peace to all the enenewsers and keep the faith.. we are winning imo
just have to bust decommissioning by melting in nitric acid (causes NO2 pollution)
downwind from la hague and sellafield and we get this data to get the ball rolling….
http://nuclear-news.net/2013/04/28/supreme-court-hears-our-case-on-uks-illegal-air-pollution/
wonder where all the nitrogen is coming from?
peace
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name999
ice wall is another waste of $. Who supervises these children in charge?
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Cisco
arclight2…"HAve you seen where Alps has gone anyone? bloody waste of
time and money."
Not for EnergySolutions and Toshiba. They cleaned up on the deal; because, it was not
a pay for performance contract, just like all these other scumbag government sucking
contractors. The only guarantee these folks offer is cost overruns, "cleanup" not so
much. Hell, they all know they can't clean it up.
Fukushima to the nuclear crowd is the financial opportunity of the century…trillions will
ultimately be spent. It's all about the money. It's always about the money.
The costs on this clusterfu#k will rival the costs of any war to date. Sadly, the cost of
human lives will be more than all the wars combined. It is the beginning of the end of us
and them.
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Ontological
US Navy found out we here in the USA should have just stuck to shredding
evidence. Were ALL to blame over this with so many countries in violation of the
rather sketchy nuke laws, and regulations.
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obewanspeaks
We "all" will "pay" dearly too!
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weeman
, Japan has not earned the right to have nuclear energy. No critically minded and
informed person can evaluate this disaster and look at how Japan has responded
in the aftermath and have any confidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely.
Im luvin it, good one squire.
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AFTERSHOCK
question is, weeman, have ANY earned the right to this technology?! I can
take a step in any direction of the world and find crass violations of the
public trust and environmental crimes. What makes anyone think the Japanese are any
more incompetent than any others that think they can control nuclear power? Is it
because the Japanese are at a loss to come up with any solutions to Fukushima? Well
then, any other nation who thinks they've the means to fix this mess, please step one
step forward…
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whatamessa
EXACTLY…LOOK HOW THE U.S. is handling W.I.P.P. among others!
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m a x l i
Spot on, AFTERSHOCK! I'm surprised that no one else brought this up
earlier. That the until now biggest nuclear catastrophe in history
happened in Japan and nowhere else is purely random. There is no reason to
assume that the handling of such a catastrophe would be any better in any other
country.
That opinion "No critically minded and informed person can [...] have any
confidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely" expressed by someone from
a country which dropped two A-bombs on Japan is especially patronising.
We will hear this putting all the blame on Japan more often. They will try to
amputate on leg (Japan) in order to save the patient (the nuclear industry).
The lesson to learn from Fukushima (for those who were uninformed on the topic
or need a shock therapy to grasp anything at all) is to phase out nuclear power
generation EVERYWHERE very quickly, in a matter of days, not years!
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AFTERSHOCK
appreciate the flowers, m a x l i…
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weeman
Answer is, no, Aftershock, don't screw with what you do not full
comprehend or control, always been my stance.
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We Not They Finally
No one should be using this technology at all. "Atoms for Peace" was a
sham in the first place and that's never changed.
It's not "a right," and no one has "earned" it. It's a travesty against all of Mankind in
ANYONE'S hands.
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itsanuclearwar
The US DOE is calling the shots in Japan/Fuku and have been since day
one. The blame should fall on the US and TPTB.
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fireguyjeff
Associate Professor
Kyle CLEVELAND, Ph.D.
Sociology
Temple University
Japan Campus
He currently teaches the courses Sociology of Race and Racism and Ideology and Social
Changes in Japan.
Cleveland's research interests focus on Japanese popular culture and ethnic identity in
relation to globalization and social changes in contemporary Japan.
To his credit, he wrote about the US govt bureaucracy in terms of the many conflicting
agendas about the realities vs delusions about Fuku.
His academic skills fit with what he wrote about, as he was not addressing technical issues,
per se.
Why the title of Unidentified Nuclear Expert happened is a mystery, because he certainly is
not.
The See Also sub-link also makes reference to Anonymous source which turns out to be a
good paper by Prof Cleveland also, so by no means Anonymous. Very misleading link title, for
what ever reason.
I think that the story at
http://japanfocus.org/-Kyle-Cleveland/4075
is a great rabbit hole for ene readers.
It reads like all of Watergate/IranContra/JFK/Enron as Fuku all condensed in to about 10
pages of "OMFG, we were right all along…in fact…it is worse than we had estimated." in terms
of how most of us here have processed the available data on Fuku.
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Obvious
Forensic audit of all nuclear technical political and scientific reports findings
and research ought reveal full complexity of issues at hand. Just do it.
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AFTERSHOCK
you must really like the sound of shredders…
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Obvious
The more they shred the longer their incarceration
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AFTERSHOCK
and just who, Obvious, do you think will be enforcing those
laws? The same people that are doing it now?
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Angela_R
Its not a pretty picture and the cage closes in as one
examines then discards, possible solutions. People need
more than the survival instinct.
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obewanspeaks
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Alaskan Ice
@Obvious
+1
@AFTERSHOCK
The laws will be enforced after the financial singularity, sometime in the
next ten to one hundred years.
Thus, some culprits still believe they will likely predecease that
singularity.
There was a time when I believed, as a young prosecutor, that the rank
and file in LE and Intel were searching for their Robespierre. Now, I have
come to understand that to be a ruse countenanced by their superiors, a
ruse to keep their moralists motivated, but mostly a ruse by their
superiors to cover their asses when the financial singularity comes.
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AFTERSHOCK

very reassuring to know, Alaskan Ice, that "…sometime
in the next ten to one hundred years." we'll be seeing
justice carried-out upon the criminals who got us here. In the
meantime, I'll just keep paying my ACA premiums, in anticipation of
that dream…
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itsanuclearwar
The link was good a little while ago. I didn't finish reading it and now it is
gone. Too much truth.
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itsanuclearwar
Found another link:
http://fukushimaforum.wordpress.com/workshops/sts-forum-on-the-
2011-fukushima-east-japan-disaster/manuscripts/session-4a-when-disasters-end-
part-i/mobilizing-nuclear-bias-the-fukushima-nuclear-crisis-and-the-politics-of-
uncertainty/
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itsanuclearwar
I spoke too soon, about the "too much truth". Kyle Cleveland states: "
While U.S. governmental organizations that had even a cursory stake
in the crisis worked the event, the lead agency that provided consultation and
support was the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). From the onset of the
nuclear crisis through the following year the NRC assigned over 200 staff stateside
and sent a core team of 16 NRC staff and nuclear experts to Japan. In the early
days of the nuclear crisis as concerns about plumes of radioactive gases wafting
across Fukushima became central, the NRC had remarkably little information with
which to assess the reactor crisis, relying only on a streaming data feed from
TEPCO via the MEXT website, briefings by the Foreign Ministry and media reports.
Because of the paucity of data and the lack of communication with TEPCO, the
U.S. government quickly set up a parallel process of radiation assessment and
began conducting radiation surveys, ostensibly to protect their personnel from
exposure as they worked tsunami relief efforts, but also because of a lack of faith
in what TEPCO was conveying."
continued
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Heart of the Rose
Good catch ..they have to tell some truths these days.
But there is always an embedded ..pro-nuke, pro- industry
message.
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name999
heart, you are so correct in the formula for disinformation: a
measure of
real news and info with some measure of lies and fake BS…back to the
1940's at least.

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itsanuclearwar
The NRC was there and getting first hand info from TEPCO, and
then falsifying what they reported to the public. The NRC Freedom
of Information Documents prove this. This Youtube video by Hatrick Penry
exposes all.
"final analysis on Unit 4 hoax, evidence on Unit 3, Plume-Gate highlights"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqhWRNsrYxc
Here is a link to the NRC website and their "FOIAs Related to Japan's
Emergency" web page.
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/foia/japan-foia-info.html
Here is a video from Hatrick Penry called "accessing the NRC FOIA
documents" with tips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM_-
UOH_JEk&index=44&list=PLr12fVuSeCiIAuSDuA9TYqaWyjPVPc-7b
So it turns out that Kyle Cleveland appears to be more "controlled opposition"
serving TPTB and their nuclear agenda. What I have read so far of his article
makes it appear that he is making up excuses to cover the US Governments
wrong doings in this matter.
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itsanuclearwar
Should have read "The NRC was there and getting first hand
info from TEPCO from the very beginning, and then falsifying
what they reported to the public."
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rogerthat
yup, a spinmeister. standard admin stuff, everything these
days goes through the spin cycle
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cosmic charlie
Good to see the gloves coming off. Now, will it do any good? This kind of
malfeasance drives people away from government so we wind up with psychos in
charge. I'm sure there are some officers on the Ronald Reagan that have seen enough to quit
out of frustration.
So why have an EPA or a NRC if they are doing the opposite of what they are funded to do?
It's worse than insane…….
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AFTERSHOCK
you've got it cosmic charlie. And I like that bike!
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whatamessa
Cosmic Charlie
you are right,more like corruption,immoral,and plain old evil,fricken sick!
Hope everyone wakes up soon.
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We Not They Finally
Yeah, Orwell only gave a tiny peek into the future. War is peace, bad is
good, down is up….
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Jebus
If you read the article correctly, the "Unidentified US Nuclear Expert" references
"As one American nuclear expert told him,"…
The tone of this seems to elicit that the worst has passed.
With radionuclide contamination lasting thousands of years, and uncontained releases to this
day, day 1121, each day adds to the sum total of this disaster.
It will never be over, Fukushima is forever…
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TheBigPicture
Shredded documents or not, our governments are letting nuclear thrive and
exterminate life.
Not doing their job, at all. Not even testing the ocean.
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lindy
probably has something to do with our government & the UN playing GOD,
with weather modification programs & geo-engineering. do some research
on HAARP high frequency active auroral research program, HAMP hurrican aerosol
metaphyscis program, weather warfare, SRM solar radiation management, SAG
stratospheric aerosol geo-engineering. read section 8 to see how much tax $$ we are
spending every year on weather mods at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?
c109:1:./temp/~c109GJfELh::, how about some sulphur & aerosol injection at
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?
AWD_ID=1351466&HistoricalAwards=false, or prof. david keith talking about dumping
500K tons of aluminum nano particulates into the air http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=G7mjw50xB_A. the new name for the global warming scam is climate change. do you
wonder what all those persistent, lingering trails left by jets are? they ARE NOT
condensation trails. http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org.
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Runningonlove
Thank you Lindy for the links. One can only shudder at the
unforeseen,
unaknowledged interactions going on now, between the stratospheric particulates

laid down by the geoengineers, and the radioactive particles blown into the same
global atmosphere mixing pot by Fuku.
Keith and his "500K of aluminum" shill crap attempt to obfuscate the ongoing truth.
Edward Teller suggested 25 MEGATONS of aerosols per year, way back in the
early 1990s, if I recall rightly…lets see, a good 15-20 years later, maybe half a
BILLION tons of toxic crap wafting around and filtering down onto the planet. Now
potentially radioactive to boot. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn't it?
I wonder how these characters sleep at night, and if they ever have nightmares.
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Runningonlove
I forgot to add, for a little musical video relief, try this offering.. it's
a retake on the C&W classic "Ghostriders in the sky"
http://youtu.be/T-ql9dQ-Nx8
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lucius.cornelius
Not even testing the ocean.
Of course they're testing, they're just lying about it. And those lies cannot be taken as
'proof they're hiding something', the establishment lies even when it doesn't need to.
It's now the standard response to most, if not all, public questions.
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Dr. Goodheart
At Fukushima Daichi, 3 Coriums Melted Out Of Containment, Compared To 1 Melt
Out At Chernobyl ; via A Green Road
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/01/at-fukushima-3-coriums-left-containment.html
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dosdos
Let's arm all the children of the world with guns. Makes as much sense as Japan
having nuclear generated power, and probably less harmful.
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VanneV
Does anyone really believe that dumping nuclear waste in the Pacific and
elsewhere isn't causing all the terrible earthquakes?
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mairs
Earthquakes are mostly caused by plate tectonics. If they're from nuclear
waste, then why were there lots of terrible earthquakes before nuclear
power… before people evolved?
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Jebus
With all due respects to everyone, my personal hypothesis is that the
melting and displacement of unmeasured quantities of mass, fresh
water ice, shifting from one position on earth to another, is causing the earths
crust to settle and shift, generating the uptic in major earthquakes that we see
today…
So, the excess heat generated by anthropologic activity, including nuclear power,
is indirectly allowing the tectonic plates to shift, in ways that they could not before
humans started burning down the house…
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VanneV
Why Have There Been So Many Earthquakes Recently?
http://www.science20.com/between_death_and_data/why_have_there_been_so_m
any_earthquakes_recently-86312
Wasn’t 1950-1960 the time of many atmospheric testing of nuclear bombs?
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lindy
probably has something to do with our government & the UN
playing GOD, with weather modification programs & geo-
engineering. do some research on HAARP high frequency active auroral
research program, HAMP hurrican aerosol metaphyscis program, weather
warfare, SRM solar radiation management, SAG stratospheric aerosol geo-
engineering. read section 8 to see how much tax $$ we are spending every
year on weather mods at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?
c109:1:./temp/~c109GJfELh::, how about some sulphur & aerosol injection at
http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?
AWD_ID=1351466&HistoricalAwards=false, or prof. david keith talking about
dumping 500K tons of aluminum nano particulates into the air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mjw50xB_A. the new name for the global
warming scam is climate change. do you wonder what all those persistent,
lingering trails left by jets are? they ARE NOT condensation trails.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org.
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obewanspeaks
Yes, we certainly did some damage to the Earth during those 2053
Nuclear Bomb tests and that latent seismic/bomb energy could
have been stored in the Earth and yes that stored energy could now be
activating plate movements and while being released.
If one looks at the Expanding Earth Theory they could find similar thinking of
how the Earth expands and I believe that the Sun does play a role in the
Earth's expansion. Massive amounts of energy are released and I believe that
energy is drawn in through the poles by our magnetic field to our core which
then helps convert that Sun energy to matter.
Walah an expanding Earth which depends on the Sun along with cosmic
energy and dust to expand. But when you introduce new free electrons to this
mix in the form of manmade Nuclear Energy then that released energy would
also play a similar role in feeding the core and speeding up the process along
with any plate movements, which should have instead taken hundreds of
thousands of years to activate.
Love theories..
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Jebus
Another consideration are the massive quantities of space
dust that is captured daily by earths gravity and falls to earth
as matter. Not all of that is vaporized as kinetic energy and atmospheric
chemical deposition brings that down to Earth too. The mass of that
alone, must be enormous…
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Angela_R
Jebus "another consideration are the massive quantities
of space dust that is captured daily by earths gravity and
falls to earth as matter."
I wonder whether the magnetosphere might repel this. However,
there is at times a breech in it. But I suspect repulsion would still be
operative, but don't know.
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We Not They Finally
The magnetosphere has already been damaged
big-time. There is also apparently (and I can only go
with what other, more scientific types have published)the likes
of global warming on other planets, not touched by the
notorious species called humans. Like a system-wide shift for
the worse.
But there is also a predilection on the part of bad people/forces
to make chaos and destruction worse. That's one of the things
I've been anticipating/fearing. That when the reality of massive
radiation finally breaks through, some "diversion" will come to
make it seem like something else or to send the blame
elsewhere or to just throw people into so much chaos, that
nothing constructive can be done.
One would hope not. We'd just better hang on tight.
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obewanspeaks
These are important points as we are breathing in this
dust on a daily basis and lots of Earth. That's why we
have to clean everything so often. Just think of the pollen dropping
out of the trees. Massive amounts during certain times of the year.
Ergo: It would be very bad to include/introduce Radiation
Contamination into that breath of dirty Earth filled with organics (of
this planet) air.. Manmade is not organic..
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JoyB
Exploding nukes underground could certainly cause earthquakes,
just as fracking causes earthquakes. But melting a reactor or
dumping barrels of rad waste off a ship at sea doesn't cause earthquakes.
Any more than you jumping off a picnic table bench or spilling your kool-aid
causes earthquakes.

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VanneV
Between 1900 and present, the first 9.0 earthquake wasn’t until after
the first atomic bomb in 1945.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/10_largest_world.php
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Angela_R
VanneV @ 10.20pm
"Wasn't 1950-1960 the time of many atmospheric testing …."
actually in the southern hemisphere the French continued until Australia and
New Zealand took France to the World Court in 1973. From recall an
injunction was granted. France ceased above ground testing around 1974.
VanneV @ 10.27pm
"The first 9.0 earthquake wasn't until after the first atomic bomb in 1945."
Yes, there are none recorded before 1945; quite a number though above 8.0.
http://earthquakes.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/10_largest_world.php
Unfortunately, we appear to have no records prior to 1900; so very little
history.
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mairs
So…. you're saying that all the 8.5's before the first atomic bomb
are chopped liver?
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itsanuclearwar
Something I found on the NRC web site FOIA:
"What Went Wrong?
" Overconfidence in BWR design – Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission
did not require improvements implemented in U.S. in 1980s.
" Historical information was ignored. Japan trench produced earthquakes of
magnitude 8 or higher four times in the past 400 years – 1611, 1677, 1793,
and 1896, often accompanied by Tsunamis
" Placement of diesel fuel tanks above ground on waterfront
" History of falsified records by plant owner Tokyo Electric Power (TEPCO)"
Large quakes prior to the nuclear age.
http://pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1117/ML11175A295.pdf
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Homolumina
Please check this out –
Neal Adams animation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Theory about Expanding Earth
http://www.dinox.org/expandingearth.html

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We Not They Finally
There are probably several links between radiation and earthquakes —
maybe just not a direct line. Like radiation destroys the ozone layer which in
turn does this which in turn does that, and one of those steps causes an earthquake.
It would be GREAT to have that comprehensively spelled out. (And maybe it has been.
I'd look.)
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name999
VaneV, sleepy and going to bed, but you have it here, the environment is
being manipulated and
disasters are being created…yawn…nothing new in this but more innovative
technology.
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itsanuclearwar
lindy got it right. HAARP! What do you think caused the earthquake on 3-11
in Japan? It was HAARP and the US Government/Navy. The proof is out
there for anyone to see.
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We Not They Finally
The earthquakes 10 kilometers deep are said to be the suspicious
ones. I believe Japan was that. Also the recent new earthquake in
Chile.
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E
I was wondering if anyone was else was thinking that. Since we don't know how far
down these cores are they could be anywhere in the earth is it possible for the
molten fuel to hit molten rock and travel with it? And then what does it do? Isn't there an island
forming out in the Pacific just east of Japan that appeared a year or so ago? The answer is we
don't know because this has never happened before. If we can't control this power why is
anyone with with a thought process even allowing this technology to continue? I try to wake up
1 person a day to this and has been my goal for coming up on a year now. It's mind boggling
we are allowing this to happen. And all we are doing is boiling water! Shut them all down!
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vital1
"I try to wake up 1 person a day to this and has been my goal for coming up
on a year now."
E, well done, the more people we educate the sooner change will happen.
We need educate people outside of these forums to the seriousness of this disaster.
As MSM is not doing its job, we need to step up, and do it.

Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is
quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the
lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it, Twitter it, or email
it. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put it
into letter boxes when you go for a walk.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf
Or use these resources Chemfood has provided. All you need is a printer, scissors,
some thumb tacks and … viola! We all are info dispersers as well! Put them on notice
boards everywhere in the community. Get your local church or community organisation
to help.
http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-
13#comment-478924
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E
I can one up you on that. My girlfriend is one of the ones in charge of
the San Antonio March Against Monsanto so I'm going use that
opportunity to drive the hammer down. I've gotten to the point where if people think
I'm nuts and I can see it I tell them to prove me wrong. At the same time I try to
balance my life mentally and I'm finding it harder and harder. I don't understand
why we would allow this. As I said… Mind boggling! You know when people just
start dropping dead from this maybe people will put down the Flappy Bird. I fear for
my daughter everyday. I do this for her and the children of the world. It's so sad to
read about the children of Japan asking if radiation is in their food. Shame on
Prime Minister Abe…
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vital1
"I try to balance my life mentally"
Yes, it is important for all of us to do that.
Live each day to the best, and have a positive attitude.
Act in love and kindness, not only to human beings, but to all life on the
planet.
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tsfw
How heavy is the molten fuel, is it likely to sink and start burning through the
earth, or will it float around the ocean for a few thousand years. They must
know if it's a floater or a sinker? Anyone?
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We Not They Finally
W. No one even seems to focus on whether URANIUM floats or sinks.
It's a heavy metal and apparently it sinks. So they measure the surface
water of the ocean and say, see how little radiation there is. But where the
aerosolized uranium particles sink, they poison the plankton at the bottom of the
sea, which goes up the whole food chain!
Don't know the answer to your question — and it might be a complex answer, even
on the part of a trained honest scientist, like maybe a geologist. But yes, we need
to start thinking in WHOLES, in interconnected ecology and geology.

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We Not They Finally
tsfw (which is who I meant to address the above to) — just out of
curiosity, why is your avatar Putin???
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Angela_R
WNTF,
even though uranium is heavy, I would be very surprised if it sunk in the
ocean. Ships are heavy too and they float. Here is the explanation,
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why-doesn't-a-ship-sink?#slide=1
What has also likely killed sea life over the years could be the amount of
nuclear waste dumped in or near the sea over the years; it appears to have
been a practice by many countries.
http://www.csmonitor.com/1980/1014/101468.html(page)/2
ENE News referenced an article written by the Wall Street Journal in January
this year, about plutonium off the coast of California. I haven't got the link but
it could be accessed via your browser.
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We Not They Finally
E: Yochi Shimatsu speculated SOMETHING like that. That when such
dangerous explosive stuff as fissioning coriums get trapped beneath the
earth, gasses can build up and explode.
It's seems simple logic that that COULD happen — completely unclear how likely that it
WILL. Just seems like it's tempting fate way too dangerously.
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E
Thank you for the name of that gentlemen. I've learned so much from
this site and all the people commenting. I found this article while looking
up if Fukushima could explode again….
http://concienciaradio.com/fukushima/shimatsu_nuke_explosion_possibl
e_at_fukushima.html
Pretty sure this is exactly what you were referring too.
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E
http://concienciaradio.com/fukushima/shimatsu_nuke_explosion_possible_at_
fukushima.html
Sorry the link messed up on the last comment
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Danger
A clarification if I may. When Fuku blew he U.S. set an 80 mile evac zone and
moved all non-essential military personnel off the island, jump-flights to air-craft
carriers in a quick evacuation. Protocols when evacuating a base include shredding
documents, as confidential information cannot be left lying about. The pertinent fact is that the
military moved everyone off the island in a quick evacuation. Focusing on a standard practice
of shredding documents is not a cover-up, or pertinent.
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humptydumpty
…Unless some of those documents might have been related to a secret
nuclear weapons program involving Japanese NPPs.
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obewanspeaks
Love your confidence and since there are 16,000,000 top secret docs
created every year in the US, I for one would have to say the US has plenty
of secrets to hide. I have bantered before about such documents and all these millions
of secrets. I was informed that the US is suppose to protect the US citizen's interests.
Interests, what might that be with 90 military bases sitting on the islands of Japan?
The only purpose for the formation of the federal government was for the protection of
the US shorelines from foreign invasion. I do not think Japan's military bases or
Germany's or the hundreds of other military bases around the world are on what I
would call the US shoreline. Certainly the middle east is not next to Florida or Cuba is
it?
Interests appear to be what very large corporations want represented inside these
nations and our military is for hire to protect their/those perceived interests along with
present and future business dealings. If that does not stink of collusion and corruption
at every turn along with ongoing conspiracy then I do not know what does my friend.
Now had the military responded to protect the US shores from the foreign invasion of
ongoing Nuclear Radiation Contamination spewing out of Fukushima, then maybe, they
were doing their job of protecting the citizens of this country.
But alas 3 years and nada, nothing.
So just who is this massive foreign diplomatic presence all over the world and our
military really working for?
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Danger
Communication is a tricky wicket here on ENE. My point was that the
military followed emergency protocols. The fact of emergency protocols
being quickly implemented is the point of interest and that the reality on the
ground required an immediate physical military retreat of great logistical effort with
no plan to return. This action is far more telling of the full understanding of the
seriousness of the event. Whatever documents shredded may have included
some communique of interest, but we plebes have no access even with FOI- we
can infer through the heavily redacted FOI documents of our stateside response
and see that the US was getting conflicting info from TEPCO and postulated a
much worse/realistic scenario.
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obewanspeaks
Understood..

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Danger
Military bases are U.S. territory, as are our Foreign Embassy- that
is why Julian Assange can maintain his freedom in the Ecuador
embassy within the hostile U.K.
If we abandon an Embassy we shred the documents there as well. It is
protocol. Of course we are bad actors in many circumstances, deposing
legitimate Democracies, working through third parties to capture and torture
in our secret prisons, paying out hundreds of millions in cash to warlords to
de-stabilize and terrorize; the usual behavior of the US abroad. We are the
monster that makes Godzilla wear tap shoes and dance over the environment
and creatures and peoples of the world.
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obewanspeaks
A constant state of war is not good for our environment or our
ecosystem.
It's a child's mentality at best..
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AFTERSHOCK
appreciate your insights, Danger. You need to join in more
often. BTW…what's the meaning of your avatar's graphic.
Looks to be a seal of some sort…
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Danger
thanks Aftershock. the avatar is part of a public art
commission I made years ago, it is an abstraction of the
Mayan calendar's Long Count aspect.
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Danger
it is seven feet in diameter
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AFTERSHOCK
awesome rant, obewanspeaks…
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mairs

And that's why they have to pretend that SFP 4 is still there, because to admit that
it was destroyed would have meant evacuating Tokyo, and all of the other horrible
consequences that it would entail. Instead just suppress all information and let the population
stew.
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Gen. Buck Turgidson
In the early days of this fubar event there was talk a large central shared
fuel pool which I'm gathering burst into flames within hours of the tsunami.
Anybody have any info?
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We Not They Finally
Now we're into scary-scarier-scariest. Thought we had enough to
process with reactors 1-4 all having their own separate spent fuel
pools. But I do seem remember that there was ALSO a shared fuel pool.
Haven't a clue what might have happened. Just that bad things happened to
everything else!
Incidentally, in NPP's here in the U.S., many also have outrageous tonnage of
spent fuel.
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Gen. Buck Turgidson
Anyone who knows anything knows that this game was over for all of us when unit
3 screwed the pooch.
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Ontological
Correct. My first thoughts when I saw the R3 detonation was ELE. I have
made a similar statement in the past here. TY for your input.
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Angela_R
VannV
Ah, the chemistry that they avoided recognizing; 40% of the phytoplankton had already
disappeared by 2008. I hadn't fathomed why; guess it was the culmination of previous cesium.
I wonder if there are up-to-date figures for the loss of plankton.
Thought I recently read of a load of iron being deposit in the ocean of the Southern
Hemisphere, however I cannot find a link. But then I examine the iron that I think has leaked
from the outer core. http://www.discovery.com/earth/oceans/atlantic-ocean-floor-unexpectedly-
pumping-iron-130820.htm.
Not only the fish will starve/poisoned, by the absorption of cesium by the plankton, but we are
losing a source of oxygen. Nitrogen is now more evident. Forgotten what stratosphere that is
manifesting in.
Shark attacks are increasing, (starving sharks perhaps). I recall the 50's in Australia, perhaps
the result of atomic tests.
The increase in earthquakes may be because of the stirring of the cores of the earth (no

doubt geologists are examining this), but there are other factors that could also be influencing
the earth.
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obewanspeaks
I like this one, but nobody else does.
https://www.google.com/#q=expanding+earth+theory
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Jebus
I do, it is a very compelling hypothesis. The video presentation is good.
Maybe irrelevent, but I have watched many acetylene torch caused iron droppings
expand and bubble up larger as they solidify from a molten state.
The anti-thesis is that science knows what direction the plates are moving and
they seem to be folding under each other laterally and the diameter of the earth
has been fairly constant for the time that man has been able to measure it.
Which is a very short time in Earth's history.
Then there are the mountain ranges, easily created by either process…
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obewanspeaks
Jebus, glad you like it. I crossed/researched varied fields to
discover my support for this theory.
Where ever I looked there appeared to be tangible support/documentation for
this theory premise.
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Angela_R
Re: expanding earth
I seem to recall an article on 'earth contraction' after an earthquake;
not sure now whether it was the Indonesian or Japanese mega-quake.
Maybe this will contribute to an explanation:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/earth/surface_and_interior/plate_tectonics
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Ontological
If the hollow earth theory is correct, and EQ / Solar data supports it,
then expansion is the only answer for the incorrect theory of
uniformitarianism geology.
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Homolumina
I do Obewan, it is the only theory that makes sense within the big

picture, it is in alignment with fundamental principles of life – I just
posted this here – see below, smiles. I think we are one fine pod here and I am
always sending love and peace out to my enenews community. I find it fascinating
how everybody is holding a little puzzle piece – all of it is part of the picture – that
is how I see it since perception is projection. . . means we are all in our uniqueness
a part of the solution, a little piece, but without it, the picture can not be complete.
Every one here matters in ways we cannot comprehend. In my projection we are
here in touch with reality and therefore we are real, a part of the solution. Here is
what I posted:
Please check this out –
Neal Adams animation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ
Theory about Expanding Earth
http://www.dinox.org/expandingearth.html
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obewanspeaks
Very Nice!
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16Penny
OK, admittedly this is headed off topic. So extrapolating from
the expanding earth theory, filling in below the expanding
universe theory, what if Earth was closer to the Sun long ago and as the
planets grow they move further out. I know sizes of the planets does not
support that but I have no clue how dense the cores of the planets are.
Perhaps they grow at different rates. Perhaps they collect different types
of space trash at different orbits. Perhaps Venus is next to
spontaneously have life / evolution start there. Perhaps we are next to
loose our oceans and become desolate like mars. So much to think
about.
I have heard of the space water theory and I am thinking in terms of a
sorter at a metal shred plant right now. What if different fractions or
weights of atomic material gather on the different planets / moons
depending on their density / gravity, distance from the sun, availability of
appropriate matter (someone closer isn't already collecting what they
have an affinity for).
I recognize these thoughts might not be novel but it is new to me. Any
insight from ENEer's?
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Stax
Homological that Neil Adams vid is sound-succint and a bullseye.
Thank.
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Stax
typo sorry Homolumina.
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Socrates

Tried to cover up radiation because it is invisible and killed many more.
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Daisy207
Again I ask – why isn't every home on the west coast being given radiation badges
– for the front lawn, for the inside of the house and for each person to wear? 24
hour test. Maybe 5-8 per household. If they are high – which is just a simple photographic
analyses – then insist that they do the expensive tests. Data are needed so that people can
make informed decisions about whether to stay or leave. Japan is toast forever and they need
to dig out those plans to evacuate. But the west coast may be in a slow roast and who knows
how far inland this extends. I have said from the beginning – there is no solution. We build a
technology with no idea what to do with the waste. What we have done to this earth in just the
past 100 years is unconscionable.
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Angela_R
Hi Daisy, "I have said from the beginning – there is no solution."
If so, then surely that is the answer to your question
"What we have done to this earth in just the past 100 years is unconscionable." Yes.
Think Daisy, how come a very old book, thousands of years old, included a declaration:
"I will bring to an end those ruining the earth."
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tsfw
Since when does any gvnt want their citizens to be informed?
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Jebus
When they throw up, the false flag?
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Homolumina
Not we Daisy – I refuse, we have been enablers at best by not doing
anything about it…
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We Not They Finally
Daisy, apparently they did not even issue radiation badges to workers at
WIPP! Now they are all excited that FINALLY they are getting real-time
dosimeters for workers to wear. Apparently, they let them work for fifteen years and still
counting, without dosimeters!
If anything is announced about the public at large having dosimeters or Geiger
counters, it will be to discourage. Like people were told to NOT take iodine pills against
the original plume coming in from Japan.

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fireguyjeff
Why waste the tax payers money when WIPP will last 10,000 years?
What could go wrong?
Hence, no real need for dosimeters.
Besides, the fork lift drivers were properly trained on how to duct tape punctured
containers.
They all knew to always carry plenty of duct tape with them at all times.
Safety first, always.
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obewanspeaks
That must have to do something with an apple..
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Angela_R
"That must have something to do with the apple..:)"
A parable obewan? I recall the first one I heard from my father re lying. "The
boy that cried wolf."
He didn't explain it, but one learned to be obedient to its message. We crawl at first,
then walk, later run…and finally we may be granted to fly with freedom, but with
freedom we need to be responsible.
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arclight2
http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/06/nuclear-hotseat-website-hacked-plea-for-
support-from-libbe-halevey/
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Jebus
Here is a significant past ENENEWS thread that shows the severity of this disaster
as it pertains to the core(s) being ejected from at least one reactor shortly after the
water was lost. Most likely from reactor three's nuclear explosion. Notice the multitude of links
to many reports of nuclear fuel tossed about the Fukushima compound and ejected up to a
mile away.
Reports of nuclear fuel rod pieces being ejected from Fukushima reactors and/or spent fuel
pools – Published: February 25th, 2012 at 1:11 pm ET By ENENews
Several news articles and experts have reported that nuclear fuel
pieces/fragments/flakes/particles were deposited onto the ground around Fukushima at
varying distances from the reactors and spent fuel pools after one or more of the explosions.
Here’s a list of the reports that began in early April
http://enenews.com/pieces-nuclear-fuel-ejected
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alreadyconsidereddead
the general population clings to the single frayed hope that this was an accident

and not part of a bigger operation.
this denial is what will allow the final phase of the Armageddon Operation to continue
unopposed by the masses, as if there is a strand of hope left in such a forsaken future as we
have arranged.
100 years of paper whores, of strawmen and tinmen and the wizards and lizards.
I do not expect the people responsible for the nuclear wastelands or their henchmen to accept
a path forward without them, nor will they be held accountable.
It still amazes me they had not as yet utilized the warheads, so many creatures without a moral
boundary and so many triggers for them to find.
fuku them all. indeed, fuku them all.
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Sol Man
This is a repost, as it seems relevant to where we are now with this very bad event.
I want this to stand on its own and not as a reply to any other post. TY
"I did not know then how much was ended. When I look back now from this high hill of my old
age, I can still see the butchered women and children lying heaped and scattered all along the
crooked gulch as plain as when I saw them with eyes still young. And I can see that something
else died there in the bloody mud, and was buried in the blizzard. A people's dream died
there. It was a beautiful dream… the nation's hoop is broken and scattered. There is no
center any longer, and the sacred tree is dead."
_Black Elk
From: Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee
Author: Dee Brown
Thanks to all of you being here. I appreciate all of your input.
Sol Man
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4Warnd
Sol Man, an eloquent, moving, tragic recollection from Black Elk.
It reminds me of an image – from a film, distant – cannot remember the details, etc
except this:
While knowledge of the nuclear weapons release is known by both mother and
daughter, in the sunlit bedroom of their San Franciscan home, pacific ocean in the far
distant, they proceeded to make their daughters bed, in silence, in the oddly backlit
light of their last morning upon this earth.
Thanks for your post and remembering it today.
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FXofTruth
The truth here is NOTHING can EVER be believed from ANY government agency;
corporation; media outlet; medical organization; financial organization; or even
history book; why….because they lie and will ALWAYS lie about EVERYTHING.
Show me one, just one political statement; one disaster relief plan; one historical event; one
news story; one business deal; that was ALL TRUTH and proven as such. Not one statement
or situation has EVER been presented in the true light or proven as totally true!
Some facts, photos, videos, statistics, etc., are always altered or omitted so the "spin" was
always in a way that the presenter of the information could control and manipulate the Public.
So the corrected rule of thumb is:
"Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see!"
People died and are dying because of the way this tragedy is being handled. These fools are
worried about panic? Too bad. People should panic if their lives are about to end!
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Angela_R
FXofTRUTH,
you say "the truth here is that NOTHING can ever be believed from ANY
government agent", isn't that what Aesop's fable tried to teach us in the "The Boy Who
Cried Wolf?" When caught too often in a lie, the danger then was that nothing would be
believed…
I personally like to acknowledge when the truth has been told and make a demarcation
between the truth and the lie. For to me, the truth should not be ever held to be a lie.
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atomicistheword
Angela_R,
The problem is that truth is a lie and a lie is the truth in this world. Dan certainly
knew this. Johnny divine spoke much on similar issues.
The love of wealth and reversal of humanity for wealth acquisition. The
punishment of the ones who go out to destroy the environment. The greedy nero
family bowing to the displeasure of humanity.
It's all happening now.
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Angela_R
Hi atomicistheword, "The problem is that truth is a lie and a lie is
the truth in this world"
In their world, not mine.:)
People are still seeking to make money from the exploitation of the earth, but
their intention is to build wealth, not to kill themselves. However, I do think that
at least one of them knows where this is leading, and he is the 'son of
destruction.'
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itsanuclearwar
They are not worried about panic. There you go believing them. This is
about population control and nothing else. Think they give a rats ass about
us and if we were to panic? NO WAY! TPTB want us all dead. This is a nuclear war
against us, all by design. People need to wake up to this fact. ALL of the evidence, ALL
of their actions, eliminate ALL other possibilities. The plan is to wipe out the middle
class, create hardship and suffering for everyone that is still alive, living conditions so
bad that the people will be happy to accept what they offer. Although the people will not
get what they were promised. It's the New World Order. That is what Fuku is about.
Don't ever underestimate the ones that are successfully killing you.
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atomicistheword
My friend the so called new world order started some great time ago. It
is not new, nor is it going to succeed. That is why the greedy pigs are
at the trough gulping indignation by the truck load. Their insane philosophy, if we
cannot have it no one else can.
Their last desperate attempt to take ALL by enslaving humanity with technology,
as they remove currency exchange and mark everyone with a devils device to
switch them on or off income streams. Alternatively using brain manipulation
frequencies to control the underlings. One or both.

Both will fail.
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Tung Jen
Way too much to say…. need helpful suggestions… system overload! Need to
break from this and do some gardening.
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zogerke
breathe and garden and peace to you tung jen. none of us are useful if we
are too overwhelmed…we all need respite.
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Shaker1
Tung Jen, I think gardening is a suggestion in itself.
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MM
Looking at pictures of R3 destruction, I have not been able to locate the reactor
pressure vessel lid (covered by debris or in the ocean?). I still am not clear if the
prompt criticality occurred in the spent fuel pool OR the reactor itself. Reading and watching
Fairwinds and other sites leads me to believe it was the spent fuel pool that went, however the
energy of the explosion looks more focused as if from a cannon (pressure vessel). Anyone
with some info?
MM
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KingofthePaupers
Fukushima crisis “actually far worse than anyone acknowledged… information
withheld to prevent panic” – Professor:
Jct: Ah, it was to prevent panic that Stephen Harper turned off the fallout detectors on Mar 25
2011 before the nuclear plume hit BC to result in triple baby deaths. Lucky he didn't panic
pregnant women and children into staying out of the nuclear rain. Seattlers got fuked withb
150 hot particles per person in April, bet similar in BC! In my run for Prime Minister in the 2011
General Election, my videos urged Canadians to "duck and cover."
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYEOvpWV5TtUTw3nNOKgncjnLsdcimasr
Fukushima General Election for Prime Minister Playlist
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Shaker1
"Without a qualitatively different regulatory system…"
The perspective here is what they have and had, isn't it? In essence, it says that nothing's
changed, the Japanese or world societal fortitude isn't there for change. No matter what the
causal physical trail that leads here, the sociologist or psychologist is amply qualified to make
such statements. Stripped of anything other than the responsibility for the process that one
might give to any common citizen of societies that have allowed nuclear development on this
scale, I would think they are even more qualified than those who have intimate knowledge of

nuclear processes as they have no more to lose than any common man. There needs to be a
sense that comes from the immanently non-technical side who's intelligence can't be assailed.
As interested as I am in physical technicalities I'm not going to cite physical examples of why
nuclear is an obvious fail. Our arguements should come from the fact that we as humans
aren't equipped to deal with the problems on a societal level. Even those reasons why we
aren't so equipped are not important to the arguement, only that we aren't.
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Socrates
Tne US military was going to pull some 80,000 service and dependents out of
Japan. The evacuation zone was to be expanded. Then the work came down to
minimize so as to not create panic and, presumably. Economic loss to the nuclear power
industry.
One must read the FOIA documents again. Read the NRC transcripts again, too. Realize that
the coverup included misinformation bloggers and misdirection shills.
Three years later, news continues to leak out. What is more important is that radioactive
substances will leak out forever.
Many people were injured and will eventually die in both Japan and North America to "save"
the Nuclear Renaissance in effect sending us into the Dark Ages.
Nuclear bloggers are paid $200,000 per year to discredit anti-nuclear bloggers from what I
have read. They try to infiltrate, too.
People will now seek to attach blame and help those injured children. The fat cats should pay,
not the children. This will be a test of our justice system. Unless there is justice, then we will
force the most helpless and those serving our country to absorb all losses.
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Shaker1
"Nuclear bloggers are paid $200,000 per year to discredit anti-nuclear
bloggers from what I have read."
Really? You know, sometimes it severely tests my faith in intelligence that people don't
understand that if they sit beneath a goose for long enough, sure, they might be
rewarded with the occasional 'golden egg'. But to ignore the obvious need of the goose
to shit, to watch in fascination and envy as it's cleverly formed into an ovoid sculpture
painted gold and accepted as necessary tender…It's just gold-painted shit, and gets
one just what other possessors of gold-painted shit will give.
May that justice be truly gold.
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AFTERSHOCK
brilliant, Shaker1…
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wildandfree
Socrates, I think you are right "Many people were injured and will eventually
die in both Japan and North America to "save" the Nuclear Renaissance in
effect sending us into the Dark Ages." Although I am beginning to think we are already
in our next dark age, seems that the next generation, the "tell me more about ME!"
generation, will freak when cell phones and texts are limited or eliminated, seems they
have little to say without a key board and even very much less than the dancing hippies
at Woodstock when they should be screaming at the top of their Plutonium filled lungs. I
was just out on this wonderful afternoon in NV and saw my doc, said he was headed to
southern CA for a fishing trip for yellow fin Tuna, I asked about his perception on on the
bio accumulation of rads, he said he was taking stuff to get it out of his body, so eat up!

People can be so smart and really dumb in the same paragraph. Going to be hard on
everyone when reality sets in.
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HoTaters
"Unidentified US Nuclear Expert: “Without a qualitatively different regulatory
system, and in light of how Japan/Tepco responded to this crisis, Japan has not
earned the right to have nuclear energy. No critically minded and informed person can
evaluate this disaster and look at how Japan has responded in the aftermath and have any
confidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely. In the most seismically active country [...]
even if Japan had a robust regulatory structure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols,
nature conspires against the best-laid-plans of human institutions. And what Japan has is
certainly not the best plan by any measure.”
Amen to that.
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wildandfree
"Japan has not earned the right to have nuclear energy." With the response to
incidents in the US and abroad, we need to realize that NO ONE has EARNED the
right to have nuclear energy. Who are we kidding? We are one crazy species, we can
exercise critical thinking but we are not smart enough to realize critical limits. All efforts for
nuclear energy should be directed towards safe closure of ALL facilities and a determination
of what to do with the crap we have developed to date. If we don't, we won't be around long
enough to worry about it. As a matter of fact, I think we may be past that point now. Every
effort should be made to stop this insanity. I will ask again… Who are we kidding?
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wildandfree
Sorry ENEnewsers, should have read the previous posts of which there
were many, I was mad to think that the "Industry" thinks only Japan is is not
qualified. Others made the point, before. Thanks Admin for your great work and for
providing us the opportunity to speak out!
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Nick
MM:
Unit #3 went kaboom. Reactor core innards have been found in areas of Japan far removed
from the plant.
Japan is toast, and so is the rest of the planet.
There ain't no magical zeolite sodium bi-carbonate snake oil to clean this shit up.
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Jebus
Here is a giant Database on the Research of Radioactive Substances
Distribution…
Seems to be THE Japanese database…
http://radb.jaea.go.jp/mapdb_prev/en/
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Socrates
I remember that documents were shredded in anticipation of a military evacuation,
not to cover up, as I recall. Memory is not as sharp as it was. But we should be
careful about third party statements that contain conclusions. Just sayin'….
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Jebus
Seems that I remember that reactor #3 exploded twice according to a UN agency…
UN Agency: Reactor 3 exploded a second time 24 hours later — Then wind and rain brought
high levels of radiation over Tokyo, Sendai, Nagano
http://enenews.com/un-agency-reactor-3-exploded-a-second-time-24-hours-later-then-wind-
and-rain-brought-high-levels-of-radiation-over-tokyo-sendai-nagano
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obewanspeaks
Yummy and during the day and during the starlight too!
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Jebus
Criticality
The Fine Line of Control
http://library.lanl.gov/cgi-bin/getfile?00285891.pdf
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MM
Jebus,
Thank you for the link. While it did not answer my question, it did take me for a ride. I can see
there are still lots of questions unanswered. I appreciate Nick's help too. Thank you.
MM
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VanneV
Japan ready to intercept any North Korea missile deemed a threat
By Nobuhiro Kubo
TOKYO Sat Apr 5, 2014
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/04/05/uk-japan-korea-missiles-idUKBREA3404L20140405
hattip: http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/newsupdatemain.html
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timemachine2020
Yet the USS Ronald Radiagan is still in service. We all know that radiation leaches
into metal. What about all the radiated water pumped through the internal

plumbing of that once mighty ship? Do they actually think after a few scrubdowns that it
magically disappeared? I would not want to be serving on that or any other Tomodachi
involved vessel. How many more will get sick from the residual radiation? That ship shoud be
decommissioned along with the others involved. Sure as hell isn't the NAVY I signed up for
and served in.
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Sparky
@timemachine2020, "How many more will get sick from the residual
radiation?" Many more! US Ronald Regan has become the nuclear poster
child/recruitment PR machine for feel-good, hip nuclear.
USS-R.Reagan educators next gen program, coming to your local HS:
http://www.turlockjournal.com/section/17/article/24972/
“…the staff backs the NJROTC program 100 percent. They can see the value in
teaching a leadership course for high school students and our big thing is to teach
cadets real life scenarios on what’s going to happen to them when they leave high
school,” said Major Kelly Cross, retired Marine Corps and NJROTC instructor."
"What's gonna happen to them" is that young people 18+ will be irradiated, their health,
off-spring and futures nuclear fried in service to country and the nuclear
warlords/banksters that could care less about solders’ health, safety or the
environment. Soldiers are property, nothing more, nothing less, to be used and
disposed of as the military see fit: all expendable.
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Sparky
Bastards! These educators are from my daughter’s h.s. Co-opt the
leadership, counselors and students, all for the promise of a decent job
and subsidized education–which should be available anyway, w/o militarized
nuclear pimping! My daughter knows better, but her less–informed, financially
strapped friends do not. Nuclear never seems to miss an opportunity to switch-out
a maximize a crisis to it's ultimate PR or "research" value.
Yeah, condemn more of our sons and daughters to disability and slow death so
the US can be the biggest, most stupid ape on the nuclear stage.
http://www.nbcnews.com/#/news/asia/u-s-send-two-warships-japan-counter-north-
korea-n72936
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Sparky
Everything TBTB and media have to say about Fukushima, and
nuclear, are LIES.
They lied then, and are lying still: about Fuku, about WIPP, about Hanford,
about your local NPP and nuclear waste dump.
“Despite the scare, officials said there was no indication that any of the
military personnel experienced ill effects from the exposure, comparing it with
"natural background radiation" that all people are exposed to daily.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/USaircraftcarrierreportedlysailsintoradioac
tivecloud/2011/03/14/id/389345/
The truth will out:
http://enenews.com/tv-70-navy-sailors-apart-of-new-fukushima-lawsuit-could-
be-thousands-more-who-were-seriously-exposed-1-or-2-getting-sick-could-
be-a-coincidence-but-50-60-people-in-their-20s-off-one-ship-vi
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/20/sickened-by-service-more-us-sailors-
claim-cancer-from-helping-at-fukushima/
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ftlt
Do you think our Globalist Imperial masters care about our safety for one minute?
There trillions to made to add to their trillions already owned.
Freedom!!!! Smash Globalism!!!
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obewanspeaks
Pretty sure it is the exact same Navy..
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Nick
"Fukushima alarmism is a bigger risk than radiation
4 September 2013 | By Stuart Nathan "
Read more: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/opinion/comment/fukushima-alarmism-is-a-bigger-
risk-than-radiation/1017047.article#ixzz2yD92jYgi
"It’s been almost two and a half years since the Tohoku earthquake, which triggered the
tsunami that swept across Japan, causing massive loss of life and destroying towns and
villages. The best-known, but perhaps least serious, consequence of the tsunami is back in
the news: the continuing efforts to contain radioactivity from the nuclear reactor meltdowns at
the Fukushima Daiichi power station."
http://www.theengineer.co.uk/opinion/comment/fukushima-alarmism-is-a-bigger-risk-than-
radiation/1017047.article
Fukushima, …perhaps least serious?
Talk about a shill!
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SadieDog
80 sailors seeking $1 billion from Tepco…
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/7/us-sailors-sue-japan-utility-for-
tsunami-radiation/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS
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SadieDog
"The Japanese company says its “wholly implausible” military commanders
would rely on safety information from the utility." , Exactly!
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Just asking
Re Sadiedog How can compensation be payable when Tepco was not responsible
http://www.henrymakow.com/fukushima_-_what_really_happen.html
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