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Teamwork Makes the Dream Work - Aligning Customer Success & Sales
About Me
Mari-Frances Bentvelzen – Senior Director of Client Success
Concur, an SAP company - Travel and
expense management platform that allows
companies control costs and cash flow
associated with expenses, travel and
invoices.
Sales and Customer Success Harmony
• Partner vs. Customer
Why is Harmony Important?
• Increase upsell/cross-sell velocity
• Decrease churn
• Drive customer satisfaction
• Foster a greater sense of teamwork
Where Does It All Go Wrong
• Poor communication from both parties
• CSM who lacks initiative in managing his accounts
• Sales executive who treats CSM like an admin
• Overbearing Sales executive
• No clear role responsibility
• “Permission” needed to reach out to an account
• CSM has no credibility
• Internal friction
Key to Success
StructureCommitmentRole	
  
Clarity
Strategic	
  
Planning
Shared	
  
Goals
Evolution
CSM
• Renewals
• Adoption
• Onboarding
• Upsell/Cross-­sell
Few  
Customers
100+  
Customers
1000+  
Customers
10,000  
Customers
CSM
• Onboarding
• Renewals
• Adoption
New  Business  Sales
• Upsell/Cross-­sell
CSM
• Onboarding
• Renewals
• Adoption
• Trusted  Advisor
Account  Management
• Upsell/Cross-­sell
CSM
• Renewals
• Adoption
• Trusted  Advisor
Client  Sales  Executives
• Upsell/Cross-­sell
• Executive  Contact
Customer  SuccessSales
Executive  Leadership
Commitment
Renewals
Successful  
Customer
Demonstrate  
Value
Cross  
Sell/Upsell
Drive  Adoption
Defined	
  Roles
Role Clarity
Role Clarity
• Owner of client adoption & utilization “maximizing value” of current solution set
• Uncover and suggest new sales opportunities to support Sales goals
• Own client retention by pro-actively identifying potential at risk clients
• Design retention strategy
• Work cross functionally with Service & Support to ensure a positive client experience
• Own relationship with program admins or power users
Client  Success
• Owner of the Account
• Owner of the strategy to sell new services and products
• Coordinate resources to assist with a new Sale
• Responsible for having “strong” relationships with decision makers
• Assist with retention efforts and/or approving client save strategy with CSM
Client  Sales  Executives  
The Perfect Play
Sales	
  =	
  Quarterback
Customer	
  Success	
  =	
  QB	
  Coach
Strategic Planning
Strategic
Mid-­‐Market
Small	
  Business
• High	
  Touch
• Small	
  Book	
  of	
  Business
• 1:1	
  Ratio
• Medium	
  Touch
• Mid-­‐Size	
  Book	
  of	
  Business
• 1:1	
  or	
  1:2	
  Ratio	
  
• Pooled	
  Environment
• Automated
• 1	
  to	
  Many
Understand	
  &	
  agree	
  on	
  how	
  to	
  work	
  together
Review	
  individual	
   territory	
  plans
Communicate	
  weekly	
  priorities	
  – weekly	
  1:1’s
Divide	
  and	
  conquer
Clear	
  success	
  plan	
  for	
  each	
  account
Building Blocks of Success – Strategic Planning
Data	
  Driven	
  Decisions
RiskMissed  
Opportunities
Customer  
Confusion
Internal  
Opposition
Shared Goals
Shared Goals
$  Quota
Sale  
Opportunities
Retention
Activity
Client	
  Sales
• Net	
  retention	
  goal
• Quarterly	
  retention	
  bonuses	
  or	
  contests	
  
• Accounts	
  not	
  being	
  “replaced”
Client	
  Success
• Sales	
  Opportunity	
  conversion	
  rate	
  
• Sales	
  leads***
• Portion	
  of	
  variable	
  on	
  team	
  quota	
  attainment
Results
• Increased employee engagement
• Fostered culture of inclusion
• Reduction in churn
• Increased sales pipeline velocity
• Increased deal conversion of leads sourced by CSM
• Consistent quota achievement by high functioning CSE/CSM teams
Lessons Learned
• Separating Upsell/Cross-sell responsibilities sooner than later
• Leadership commitment in shared vision of success & clear expectations
• Regular scheduled communication with Sales and CS leaders
• Clearly defined roles and responsibilities – reiterate…frequently
• Set engagement expectations for your customers early on
• Mutually tied goals drive behavior - consistently
• Comp/bonus plan equates retention and new sales
• It’s a marathon, not a race

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Teamwork Makes the Dream Work - Aligning Customer Success and Sales

  • 1. Teamwork Makes the Dream Work - Aligning Customer Success & Sales
  • 2. About Me Mari-Frances Bentvelzen – Senior Director of Client Success Concur, an SAP company - Travel and expense management platform that allows companies control costs and cash flow associated with expenses, travel and invoices.
  • 3. Sales and Customer Success Harmony • Partner vs. Customer Why is Harmony Important? • Increase upsell/cross-sell velocity • Decrease churn • Drive customer satisfaction • Foster a greater sense of teamwork
  • 4. Where Does It All Go Wrong • Poor communication from both parties • CSM who lacks initiative in managing his accounts • Sales executive who treats CSM like an admin • Overbearing Sales executive • No clear role responsibility • “Permission” needed to reach out to an account • CSM has no credibility • Internal friction
  • 5. Key to Success StructureCommitmentRole   Clarity Strategic   Planning Shared   Goals
  • 6. Evolution CSM • Renewals • Adoption • Onboarding • Upsell/Cross-­sell Few   Customers 100+   Customers 1000+   Customers 10,000   Customers CSM • Onboarding • Renewals • Adoption New  Business  Sales • Upsell/Cross-­sell CSM • Onboarding • Renewals • Adoption • Trusted  Advisor Account  Management • Upsell/Cross-­sell CSM • Renewals • Adoption • Trusted  Advisor Client  Sales  Executives • Upsell/Cross-­sell • Executive  Contact
  • 8. Renewals Successful   Customer Demonstrate   Value Cross   Sell/Upsell Drive  Adoption Defined  Roles Role Clarity
  • 9. Role Clarity • Owner of client adoption & utilization “maximizing value” of current solution set • Uncover and suggest new sales opportunities to support Sales goals • Own client retention by pro-actively identifying potential at risk clients • Design retention strategy • Work cross functionally with Service & Support to ensure a positive client experience • Own relationship with program admins or power users Client  Success • Owner of the Account • Owner of the strategy to sell new services and products • Coordinate resources to assist with a new Sale • Responsible for having “strong” relationships with decision makers • Assist with retention efforts and/or approving client save strategy with CSM Client  Sales  Executives  
  • 10. The Perfect Play Sales  =  Quarterback Customer  Success  =  QB  Coach
  • 11. Strategic Planning Strategic Mid-­‐Market Small  Business • High  Touch • Small  Book  of  Business • 1:1  Ratio • Medium  Touch • Mid-­‐Size  Book  of  Business • 1:1  or  1:2  Ratio   • Pooled  Environment • Automated • 1  to  Many
  • 12. Understand  &  agree  on  how  to  work  together Review  individual   territory  plans Communicate  weekly  priorities  – weekly  1:1’s Divide  and  conquer Clear  success  plan  for  each  account Building Blocks of Success – Strategic Planning Data  Driven  Decisions
  • 14. Shared Goals $  Quota Sale   Opportunities Retention Activity Client  Sales • Net  retention  goal • Quarterly  retention  bonuses  or  contests   • Accounts  not  being  “replaced” Client  Success • Sales  Opportunity  conversion  rate   • Sales  leads*** • Portion  of  variable  on  team  quota  attainment
  • 15. Results • Increased employee engagement • Fostered culture of inclusion • Reduction in churn • Increased sales pipeline velocity • Increased deal conversion of leads sourced by CSM • Consistent quota achievement by high functioning CSE/CSM teams
  • 16. Lessons Learned • Separating Upsell/Cross-sell responsibilities sooner than later • Leadership commitment in shared vision of success & clear expectations • Regular scheduled communication with Sales and CS leaders • Clearly defined roles and responsibilities – reiterate…frequently • Set engagement expectations for your customers early on • Mutually tied goals drive behavior - consistently • Comp/bonus plan equates retention and new sales • It’s a marathon, not a race