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What has been learned from the
major observational studies and
        clinical trials?
 the first lesson
 systematically administered
 progestagens may in part suppress
 some of the beneficial effects of
 estrogens and may also slightly increase
 the risk of breast cancer after treatments
 with duration greater than five years.
                                      MNC/05
What has been learned from the
major observational studies and
        clinical trials?
the second lesson
estrogens, when given alone to
histerectomized women, did not appear to
minimally affect the risk for breast cancer
when compared with controls

                                      MNC/05
What has been learned from the
major observational studies and
        clinical trials?
the third lesson
Metabolic effects of estrogens and
progestagens, as a whole, can differ
depending on the route of administration, i.e.
oral vs. parentheral, and on the combination of
both, in a sequential regimen or in continuous
combined administration.
                                         MNC/05
What has been learned from the
major observational studies and
        clinical trials?
the fourth lesson
Hormonal treatments are the first
choice for vasomotor symptom relief
as long as they are needed (on and off
assessment). They should not be used for
the secondary prevention of CVD, when
atheroma plaques are already present.
                                   MNC/05
What has been learned from the
major observational studies and
        clinical trials?

the fourth lesson (cont.)
Conversely, they may protect from CVD
if started early during the transition
into the post menopause.
Hormonal treatments are preventive of
osteopenia and osteoporosis at any
stage in life
                                  MNC/05
What about the best treatments
 during the climacterium and
           beyond?

There is a general tendency to consider
that sex steroid hormones are the only
instruments with which to treat women
when they enter in the climacteric phase
of their lives…
What about the best treatments
 during the climacterium and
           beyond?

This is assumption is shared by both
women and physicians. Otherwise the
ongoing discussions that have exploded
all over the world would not have been
centered only in the risks/benefit
assessment of hormonal treatments…
What about the best treatments
 during the climacterium and
           beyond?
The climacteric, due to hormonal
causes and aging, is also a time of the
onset of several risk factors for
diseases that may be manifested later in
life, mainly cardiovascular diseases
(CVD), osteoporosis, degenerative
diseases of the central nervous system
(CNS), to name only the major ones that
may have impact in the duration and
quality of life
What about the best treatments
 during the climacterium and
           beyond?
Epidemiological studies
There are abundant studies that confirm
the increased incidence of such
diseases in untreated women as well as
many other studies about the benefit/risk
analyses of the hormonal treatments to
which these women have been submitted
What about the best treatments
 during the climacterium and
           beyond?
However, little attention is paid to other
pharmacological interventions (non
hormonal) and strategies that have been
shown to be important for the
prevention of such diseases and to
maintain or improve health.

                                     MNC/05
And now…
in 2005
The new American way …
or …
a 180º rotation ! …
                      MNC/05
NAMS position statement on
estrogen and progestagen use in
peri-and postmenopausal women
 No single trial should be used to set
 public health policy. The practice of
 medicine must ultimately be based on the
 interpretation of the entire body of
 evidence currently available, given that
 there will never be adequate clinical
 trials to cover all populations,
 eventualities, and regimens.
NAMS position statement on
estrogen and progestagen use in
peri-and postmenopausal women

 Place no limit on ET/EPT treatment
 duration, provided it is consistent with
 treatment goals; if monitored regularly, no
 stipulation is made regarding when to
 reduce or stop therapy
Are there risks?

It is crucial that information be given
about the difference between relative
risks and absolute risks, since the
former are the major cause of
misinformation and alarmism, being the
favorites of the media…
                                  MNC/05
Evidence informed practice
• It is clearly time to change “evidence based
  medicine” to “evidence informed practice”.

• I suggest the era of evidence informed rather
  than evidence based medicine has arrived



  Glasziou P. Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine. University of
  Oxford OX3 7LF. BMJ 2005;330:92
Evidence Based Medicine

          and/or
Medicine Based Evidence ?
                Manuel Neves-e-Castro
Evidence Based Medicine

            or
Inteligent Based Medicine?
                  Lucas Viana Machado
“He who learns,
 but does not think
       is lost.
He who thinks, but
 does not learn is
   dangerous”.
               Confucius
If we both learn and think
          we will
        neither be lost
        nor dangerous

  to our postmenopausal women
            patients”

      Wenger NK. Am J Geriatr Cardiol 2000;9:204-9
“Each time we learn something new,
the astonishment comes from the
recognition that we were wrong before.

In truth, whenever we discover a new
fact, it involves the elimination of old
ones.

WE ARE ALWAYS, as it turns out,
fundamentally IN ERROR.”
               Lewis Thomas English Biologist (1913-1993)
What are the best recommendations of
    the climacteric woman’s doctor?
 1.  Understand what is happening to the body during
     the climacteric and the postmenopause
 2. Mental occupation
 3. Physical exercise
 4. Proper nutrition (moderate consumption of red
     wine, and abundant fish, vegetables, fruits, soy,
     milk, garlic, chocolate, etc)
 5. Keep the body mass index (BMI) within normal
     limits
 6. Keep a normal girdle/hip ratio, waist circumference
 7. Refrain from smoking
 8. Keep a normal blood pressure
 9. Keep the blood lipids within normal values
     (statins?)
 10. Examine the breasts (palpation, inspection,
     mammography)
What are the best recommendations of
    the climacteric woman’s doctor?
 •   For vasomotor symptoms and night sweats
     take a sequential E+P medication, the most
     inert being an E-patch + oral or vaginal natural
     progesterone (alternatively, a progestagen
     loaded IUD). If histeretomyzed take only E (no
     need for P)
 •   If libido is still down, add testosterone or switch
     E+P to tibolone.
 •   If breasts are tender and dense, adjust
     dosages or use tibolone instead of E (+P)
What are the best recommendations of
    the climacteric woman’s doctor?
 •   Use vaginal estrogens if vagina is dry and if
     there is dispareunia
 •   If osteoporetic one may add bisphosphonates
     or tibolone
 •   Check stools for occult blood and do the first
     colonoscopy at age 50 and thereafter at 5 year
     intervals.
 •   Last but not least, enjoy life and help other
     women to do what you are doing.
Which is the best treatment?

In general terms, is the one that is wisely
indicated, if not contraindicated, after
balancing benefits and risks, of all strategies
and interventions, hormonal or not.

It must be aimed at specific objectives and
targets that will be monitored at regular intervals
in order to determine its efficacy and to estimate
the occurrence of any side effects, a condition
that will determine its duration.
                                            MNC/05
Which is the best treatment?
Patient needs and preferences are decisive, based on
the doctors’ advice. Let it not be forgotten that although
many treatments are available, they are nevertheless not
indispensable. Doctors have the duty to give their best
unbiased information to their patients so that they may
make the right choices and then be compliant.

The woman is the decision maker, if the doctor sees
no contraindication.

Thus,
the best treatment is what she has
chosen.
                                                   MNC/05
The take-home message is:
           (1)
  Prescribe postmenopausal
  hormonal treatments
  when clinically indicated,
  if not contraindicated!
                               MNC/05
The take-home message is:
           (2)
 The prescription of long-term
 hormonal treatments must
 depend always on a benefit/risk
 analysis in comparison with other
 non-hormonal medications and
 strategies.
                              MNC/05
The take-home message is:
           (3)
No answers from ongoing clinical
trials are indispensable to practice
today a good Medicine !
                               MNC/05

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What has been learned from the major observational

  • 1. What has been learned from the major observational studies and clinical trials? the first lesson systematically administered progestagens may in part suppress some of the beneficial effects of estrogens and may also slightly increase the risk of breast cancer after treatments with duration greater than five years. MNC/05
  • 2. What has been learned from the major observational studies and clinical trials? the second lesson estrogens, when given alone to histerectomized women, did not appear to minimally affect the risk for breast cancer when compared with controls MNC/05
  • 3. What has been learned from the major observational studies and clinical trials? the third lesson Metabolic effects of estrogens and progestagens, as a whole, can differ depending on the route of administration, i.e. oral vs. parentheral, and on the combination of both, in a sequential regimen or in continuous combined administration. MNC/05
  • 4. What has been learned from the major observational studies and clinical trials? the fourth lesson Hormonal treatments are the first choice for vasomotor symptom relief as long as they are needed (on and off assessment). They should not be used for the secondary prevention of CVD, when atheroma plaques are already present. MNC/05
  • 5. What has been learned from the major observational studies and clinical trials? the fourth lesson (cont.) Conversely, they may protect from CVD if started early during the transition into the post menopause. Hormonal treatments are preventive of osteopenia and osteoporosis at any stage in life MNC/05
  • 6. What about the best treatments during the climacterium and beyond? There is a general tendency to consider that sex steroid hormones are the only instruments with which to treat women when they enter in the climacteric phase of their lives…
  • 7. What about the best treatments during the climacterium and beyond? This is assumption is shared by both women and physicians. Otherwise the ongoing discussions that have exploded all over the world would not have been centered only in the risks/benefit assessment of hormonal treatments…
  • 8. What about the best treatments during the climacterium and beyond? The climacteric, due to hormonal causes and aging, is also a time of the onset of several risk factors for diseases that may be manifested later in life, mainly cardiovascular diseases (CVD), osteoporosis, degenerative diseases of the central nervous system (CNS), to name only the major ones that may have impact in the duration and quality of life
  • 9. What about the best treatments during the climacterium and beyond? Epidemiological studies There are abundant studies that confirm the increased incidence of such diseases in untreated women as well as many other studies about the benefit/risk analyses of the hormonal treatments to which these women have been submitted
  • 10. What about the best treatments during the climacterium and beyond? However, little attention is paid to other pharmacological interventions (non hormonal) and strategies that have been shown to be important for the prevention of such diseases and to maintain or improve health. MNC/05
  • 12. The new American way … or … a 180º rotation ! … MNC/05
  • 13. NAMS position statement on estrogen and progestagen use in peri-and postmenopausal women No single trial should be used to set public health policy. The practice of medicine must ultimately be based on the interpretation of the entire body of evidence currently available, given that there will never be adequate clinical trials to cover all populations, eventualities, and regimens.
  • 14. NAMS position statement on estrogen and progestagen use in peri-and postmenopausal women Place no limit on ET/EPT treatment duration, provided it is consistent with treatment goals; if monitored regularly, no stipulation is made regarding when to reduce or stop therapy
  • 15. Are there risks? It is crucial that information be given about the difference between relative risks and absolute risks, since the former are the major cause of misinformation and alarmism, being the favorites of the media… MNC/05
  • 16. Evidence informed practice • It is clearly time to change “evidence based medicine” to “evidence informed practice”. • I suggest the era of evidence informed rather than evidence based medicine has arrived Glasziou P. Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine. University of Oxford OX3 7LF. BMJ 2005;330:92
  • 17. Evidence Based Medicine and/or Medicine Based Evidence ? Manuel Neves-e-Castro
  • 18. Evidence Based Medicine or Inteligent Based Medicine? Lucas Viana Machado
  • 19. “He who learns, but does not think is lost. He who thinks, but does not learn is dangerous”. Confucius
  • 20. If we both learn and think we will neither be lost nor dangerous to our postmenopausal women patients” Wenger NK. Am J Geriatr Cardiol 2000;9:204-9
  • 21. “Each time we learn something new, the astonishment comes from the recognition that we were wrong before. In truth, whenever we discover a new fact, it involves the elimination of old ones. WE ARE ALWAYS, as it turns out, fundamentally IN ERROR.” Lewis Thomas English Biologist (1913-1993)
  • 22. What are the best recommendations of the climacteric woman’s doctor? 1. Understand what is happening to the body during the climacteric and the postmenopause 2. Mental occupation 3. Physical exercise 4. Proper nutrition (moderate consumption of red wine, and abundant fish, vegetables, fruits, soy, milk, garlic, chocolate, etc) 5. Keep the body mass index (BMI) within normal limits 6. Keep a normal girdle/hip ratio, waist circumference 7. Refrain from smoking 8. Keep a normal blood pressure 9. Keep the blood lipids within normal values (statins?) 10. Examine the breasts (palpation, inspection, mammography)
  • 23. What are the best recommendations of the climacteric woman’s doctor? • For vasomotor symptoms and night sweats take a sequential E+P medication, the most inert being an E-patch + oral or vaginal natural progesterone (alternatively, a progestagen loaded IUD). If histeretomyzed take only E (no need for P) • If libido is still down, add testosterone or switch E+P to tibolone. • If breasts are tender and dense, adjust dosages or use tibolone instead of E (+P)
  • 24. What are the best recommendations of the climacteric woman’s doctor? • Use vaginal estrogens if vagina is dry and if there is dispareunia • If osteoporetic one may add bisphosphonates or tibolone • Check stools for occult blood and do the first colonoscopy at age 50 and thereafter at 5 year intervals. • Last but not least, enjoy life and help other women to do what you are doing.
  • 25. Which is the best treatment? In general terms, is the one that is wisely indicated, if not contraindicated, after balancing benefits and risks, of all strategies and interventions, hormonal or not. It must be aimed at specific objectives and targets that will be monitored at regular intervals in order to determine its efficacy and to estimate the occurrence of any side effects, a condition that will determine its duration. MNC/05
  • 26. Which is the best treatment? Patient needs and preferences are decisive, based on the doctors’ advice. Let it not be forgotten that although many treatments are available, they are nevertheless not indispensable. Doctors have the duty to give their best unbiased information to their patients so that they may make the right choices and then be compliant. The woman is the decision maker, if the doctor sees no contraindication. Thus, the best treatment is what she has chosen. MNC/05
  • 27. The take-home message is: (1) Prescribe postmenopausal hormonal treatments when clinically indicated, if not contraindicated! MNC/05
  • 28. The take-home message is: (2) The prescription of long-term hormonal treatments must depend always on a benefit/risk analysis in comparison with other non-hormonal medications and strategies. MNC/05
  • 29. The take-home message is: (3) No answers from ongoing clinical trials are indispensable to practice today a good Medicine ! MNC/05